the obama campaign had not one yet this year. i just think that this is really hard work to go -- many of them left for chicago about two years ago. and it's, you know, some people may describe it in the news as a flog. i imagine it is. it's probably really hard to go that long and have that one day at the very end. and i can't imagine, you know, and so that's a difference. i don't know yet. that's there. at this point, you had 58, 57 or 58 tests of us you could see how we were doing. we haven't had that yet for the obama campaign. even romney had races under his belt. we have a sense how the organization is working. i expect it's a tight organization. and i think romney's, you know, has had a lot of the same challenges we had in 2008 than this campaign has in 2012. that's the difference between those. in terms of the different i think your question was the romney and obama this time; right? well, there are two different campaigns. one is challenging campaign and one is an incumbent campaign. i think romney, if i was just to, you